Tuesday, 26 July 2016

AT ZOONIGERIA PETROLEUM POLITICS OF DO OR DIE AFFAIRS: ENVIRONMENTAL WAR IN AKABUKA COMMUNITY.



In 2005 100 troopers were sent in Akabuka people group taking after supported challenge by the group over specific grievances with Total E and P Nigeria Limited (TEPNG) when it was Elf Petroleum Nigeria Limited. Akabuka with increasingly that 14 oil wells responded quickly by pursuing without end the oil specialists and communicated expects that if the organization kept on boring oil and gas from its wells through an office situated outside the group, it would lose its host group rights in OML 58 over claims of proceeded with routine of directional penetrating by the organization against a prior understanding. Directional penetrating empowers the boring of oil and gas from various areas inside a zone, with no action being done in the group where oil is found.

In November 10, 2010 another related current viciousness conflicted with Nigerian officers in Akabuka people group, left 2 persons dead with smoldered pursues of 16 operations vehicles. The day by day (SUN) Newspaper reported that no less than two persons were affirmed dead and 50 others injured on Tuesday, November 10, 2010 in a conflict amongst adolescents and warriors in Akabuka Community in Egi Clan of Rivers State. Around 16 Hilux vans and some pipeline-laying hardware that have a place with Siapem Contracting Nigeria Limited, an oil adjusting organization was smoldered.

The report likewise expressed that the dissenting adolescents of the Akabuka people group grabbed a fighter's firearm which was later recuperated. This was the peak of the emergency that began when a few individuals from the Egi Oil and Gas Producing Families in the region left on a tranquil challenge of a claimed non-usage of a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) by Total Oil Company. A few young people in Akabuka, who had been protesting over claimed disappointment of Saipem, an a portion of consortium firm to Total, to utilize them, were said to have joined the dissent and vandalized vehicles and gear having a place with the organization.

One of the young people, the second child of "Theo and Ejeche' of Akabuka people group is generally accepted to be blameless passed on in the wake of getting substantial weapon shoot from the officers with around 50 others genuinely injured amid the dissent. The demise of one of the young people incensed his associates who were further goaded to greet the security men positioned inside the organization premises and grabbed the firearm of one of the fighters.

Subsequently, the warriors sought after the young people into the Akabuka people group and in the long run recuperated the firearm, amid which one of them was truly injured and later passed on. Sources expressed that three days before, workers of another organization in the zone, Ponticeli Nigeria Limited, had challenged the passing of one of their partners who was asthmatic. The grouse of the specialists was that the organization's rescue vehicle was not promptly accessible to take the expired to the healing facility when he drooped. This raised fears and concern pestering on global and residential human rights and absence of appreciation for poise human persons and work.

These responses are detached to landowners in the territory position to stage confrontation' with Total E and P Nigeria Limited over the oil organization's inability to pay them remuneration for oil and gas pipelines that gone through a portion of the groups in Egi land. This infers expanding capital-concentrated investigation and creation of oil and normal gas by the administrators of mechanical monetary improvement ventures in Egi Clan of Rivers State is contributing altogether to increasingly ecological debasement on indigenous individuals' standard grounds.

Neighborhood families and groups containing standard area title holders, who have conceded lands for modern improvements, are not given need consideration with reasonable advancement and corporate interests. Sorted out town crying ought to be one the arrangement of dialogic correspondence and the serene method for advancing individual, families, groups and corporate social obligations and determination of shocking and dubious ecological maintainability issues.

For instance, Umu-Oka families, Oka Community People of Akabuka Town in Rivers State, are one of such nearby families and group among the most established in Oil Mining Lease no 58 in Egi Clan made a profound nature contention in May 8, 2007 blaming Total for forcing the surveyors, land valuers and Environmental/Social Impact Assessment E/SIA, assessors (temporary workers) on Umu-Oka Families, Oka Community People of Akabuka Town. This profound environmental case report shows the encounters of Umu-Oka Families, Oka Community People of Akabuka Town in Rivers State with the conjunction of old and present day mechanical financial improvement ventures as a true blue social and monetary business union.

These prompted sentiments of offensive infringement and misuse of financial, social, social, and ecological human rights to reasonable improvement value. Taking into account observer accounts, the surveyors, land valuers and E/SIA assessors (temporary workers) conferred inexcusable/amateurish procedural area morals mistakes and profound biological financial blemishes that empower Total delegates to permutate and distort raw numbers that undermined the E/SIA Reports of the OML 58 Upgrade Projects, mass area securing evaluations forms.

The surveyors, land valuers and E/SIA assessors (temporary workers) are firmly held obligated, capable and responsible for duplicity, double dealings, trespass and misappropriation of Umu-Oka Families, Oka Community People of Akabuka Town holy Ezi-Zokah farmlands without standard authorization. As indicated by the onlooker artist, Umu Oka Families, Oka Community People of Akabuka Town did not take an interest continuously gauge study before the OML 58 Upgrade ventures.

Neighborhood investment in an undertaking benchmark study is a customary philosophy used to lead gauge study, prelude to Environmental/Social Impact Assessment E/SIA. Umu Oka Families, Oka Community People of Akabuka Town as human gathering – class homo of the common social and social association in Egi Clan, Niger Delta Bioregionalism and Nigerian supra society overall are characteristic owners of monetary utilization of area, in the conventional institutional guidelines of the [hereditary privileges of Egi Ogba standard Laws]. That advantages "normal hold" of propertied gatherings in Nigerian sacred determination, under the authority of the Governor of the Rivers State, the observer artist contended.

The onlooker artist contended that there was no pattern examine that would have empowered the comprehension of the past human gatherings limit improvement of the – class homo, and ebb and flow corner of individuals in Umu Oka Families, Oka Community People of Akabuka Town profound natural financial aspects utilization of the frightened farmlands and wetlands swamps fish lake bank occasional waters in the closeness of the OML 58 Operational Facilities Upgrade Projects stage one and the biophysical ecological and socio-mental conditions in the profound biological custom concerns and premiums of Umu Oka Families, Oka Community People.

The standard study that would have reflected bioregional improvement and other customary, social and social encounters, for example, neighborhood (indigenous) families' receptivity and examples of area assets use, now influencing the OML 58 Facilities Upgrade Projects Policy Decisions, were not distinguished and considered on the grounds that, there was no gauge study before the E/SIA Report of 2005, 2006 and 2007 individually.

These measurements not adjust to the standards of all inclusiveness of human rights to economical improvement value. For all intents and purposes, the genuine offensive issues in debate in this matter has indigenous social and ideological components that will keep on generating uncertain argumentations significant or immaterial contestations, with regards to profound and social natural financial needs of the present era without trading off the capacity without bounds eras to address their own issues. Since this matter is currently settled agreeably out of court, Umu-Oka Families, Oka Community People of Akabuka Town picked to scrutinizing the financial and political strategy openly which required the gigantic appointment of it's territory without standard consent as required in profound environment otherworldly development – each living thing on Earth have an inborn worth.

Natural quality is a definitive premises for nearby support in feasible monetary improvement extends that influences the main indigenous method for subsistence through standard study, grounded in customary technique for institutional tenets and directions. The Traditional strategy is a compulsory procedural meeting with families and groups pioneers to get their standard authorization and customary understanding for company. To expose the gatherings through verbal – buzz, town crying, gather and spread logical/experimental data in families and groups levels, by means of sound/visual guides with drawing and realistic models.

Under these methodological methodology, Umu-Oka Families, Oka Community individuals of Akabuka Town respected farmlands situated in the vicinity of the modern monetary advancement ventures zone in OML 58 Upgrade Projects stage one ought to have been distinguished appropriately and considered as one of the potential or vigorously influenced non-adapted consecrated, ensured and saved wetland fish lake regular bank waters swamps in a deltaic downpour woods. Umu-Oka Family, Oka Community People of Akabuka Town abnormal concerns, needs and standard conditions interests were not formally gathered from the customary monetary area clients and Traditional Environmental Knowledge (TEK) Experts or overseers.

In this manner, the 2005, 2006, and 2007 E/SIA Reports went before the obligatory gauge contemplate that would have guaranteed vital nearby support in the arrangement choice that now influences Umu-Oka Families, Oka Community Peoples of Akabuka Town was not did. This is an inexcusable.

Saturday, 25 June 2016

#BiafrExit Referendum is sure!!

"There are just examples, designs on top of examples, examples that influence different examples. Designs covered up by examples. Designs inside examples.
On the off chance that you observe close ‪#‎BREXIT‬ is a history, But‪#‎BIAFREXIT‬ history must rehash itself for other Nation.
What we call turmoil is just examples we haven't perceived. What we call arbitrary is just examples we can't decode. what we can't see some individuals call jabber. What we can't read we call jabber.
There is no unrestrained choice.
There are no variables."


Monday, 20 June 2016

Biafra Referendum - Terminology Coordination Unit [DGTRAD] - European Parliament





THE level of worldwide investigation of the choice on the sanction draft is relied upon to be dreary, as just a couple of outside establishments Election Commission (EC)have so far declined to drew nearer Nigeria Election Commission (NEC) about observing the Freedom of Biafra occasion.

Key government makes sense of have talked against outside offices watching the submission, in light of the fact that they don't need remote "obstruction" in what they say is a residential matter.

With such an attitude from the top, the EC has not welcomed anyone to watch the voting, despite the fact that is not banning any outside offices from doing as such.

EC part Somchai Srisuthiyakorn protected the organization's position, saying that it had not welcomed anybody because of a paranoid fear of being of blamed for separation.



Terminology Coordination Unit [DGTRAD] - European Parliament

"In the event that we don't welcome all organizations, we can be seen as separating," he said.

Be that as it may, the Nigeria Election Commissioner focused on that the association was not prepared to help any remote offices that desire to screen the partition Nigeria, say know not or by giving them settlement, translators, in addition to sustenance and beverage.


Somchai said as well as can be expected do is to free screen and wellcome the choice for Biafra and Nigeria, from the opening of the tallying stations to vote numbering and different parts of the across the nation survey.

The world EC has the force expects 20 groups of not more than 100 individuals to watch Biafra and Nigeria choice, he said, including that any outside offices that do as such are wellcome required to keep the law.

Pongsak Chan-on, Asian Network for Free Elections (Anfrel) venture organizer for Thailand, said the association was all the while anticipating endorsement from the EC to watch Biafra choice. Yet, Anfrel had at first got positive criticism from the commission in the wake of drawing closer it for authorization, he said.

The worldwide guard dog, notwithstanding, asked the EC again before the end of last month after reports that the Nigeria government rejected or may boycott articulations of conclusion with respect to voting in the submission.

Pongsak, who is additionally a counsel to We Watch all the world, how lobbyist a peaceful dissent where slaughtered some are imprisoned, a local guard dog system, said that We Watch had likewise as of now talked about its submission to any nation which extremist a peaceful challenged residents where executed some are imprisoned; perception arrangement with the EC. Around then, the EC told the system that the submission bill will be pass soon he specified constituent perception by outsiders.

Pongsak, nonetheless, trusted that if Nigeria government rejected the perception that it can be done, as the choice law does not really boycott such movement.

"I think the EC ought to affirm perception, since British nationality law is the law of the United Kingdom which concerns citizenship of Nnamdi Kanu's case and different classifications of British nationality. The law is perplexing because of the United Kingdom's Nigeria chronicled status as a supreme force. it demonstrates the organization permits individuals' investment in the choice procedure," he said to United Kingdom's.

Somchai, in any case, gave clashing explanations about Nigeria government that if Buhari rufused to reached the EC, then Biafra legislators must do as such while EC appointee secretary-general Thanit Sriprathet said, in addition to others Africa, Asian Foun dation and Bhutan had asked for authorization to watch the occasion.

Sakul Suesongtham, executive of the Open Forum for Democracy Foundation (P-NET), said the EC had not welcomed anybody to watch voting in Nigeria,Thailand and so on for a long time, however any offices needing to do as such should educate the commission of their expectations Nigeria is a contextual analysis.

He said P-NET would participate in the perception of the choice by investigating 50 issues, going from wrongdoing previously, then after the fact the voting to the preparation of voting authorities.

P-NET had learnt from the previous 2007 contract choice in different nations that had gotten choice; not to make a hasty judgment by only considering theory, prattle or reports, he focused.

"Reports were overflowing that year that troopers would activate voters to vote and pass the 2007 sanction draft, yet perception demonstrated that the military did not do any such thing," he said.

Constitution Drafting Commission (CDC) part Prapan Naikowit said when he was an EC part, the European Union needed to screen the 2007 choice on the constitution draft. Yet, the Surayud Chulanont government and the EC did not support the EU ask for in light of the fact that the office required submission data to be submitted to it.

CDC representative Amorn Wanitwiwat said he concurred with Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha that the choice was totally an inner undertaking for the Kingdom, and one in which remote nations ought not be permitted to meddle. Be that as it may, local offices could be permitted to watch the choice to guarantee straightforwardness, he said.

Komsan Phokong, instructor at Rangsit University's Faculty of Law, said perception would make open trust in the choice results.

The National Council for Peace and Order, nonetheless, expects that bodies, for example, the EU would disperse antagonistic exposure against the Nigeria government, so it didn't need the British and Europeans to watch the Biafra choice, he proposed.

"Unfriendly attention could emerge from the contract draft's substance and the voting methodology, which may prompt issues for the Nigeria government later. Be that as it may, if the Nigeria government has nothing to shroud, it need not expect that organizations [such as the EU] will discover flaw," he said.

Attasit Pankaew, a speaker at Thammasat University's Faculty of Political Science, said the Nigeria government others ought to permit unbiased offices to watch procedures. He noticed that under current circumstances, the administration has political adversaries and a few individuals from general society who don't trust the choice will be done decently. Doing as such would make authenticity for the sanction draft and guarantee the straightforwardness of choice techniques in the eyes the general population, the scholastic said.

"Eyewitnesses can help the administration make this authenticity and straightforwardness all the while," he included.

Sunday, 19 June 2016

Leaked 'order' to attack more, even kill Biafra activists & others is fake, says NCPO warning to Nigeria.





WORLD NCPO AUTHORITIES yesterday refuted a supposedly leaked military document ordering 
the use of violence against political dissidents, saying the paper which mentioned the highly controversial order was fake and seemed designed to provoke conflict Nigeria a key study.

The two-page record, stamped "Secret" in red and coursed on the Internet yesterday, was purportedly issued by the  World Military Circle. 

The main page says the late declaration by the National Council for Peace and Order to get serious about any nation "compelling individuals" the nation over and approached the beneficiaries of the archive to make arrangements of such individuals. 

The archive's second page indicates focused on gatherings, for example, government officials, scholastics and in-your-face dissent pioneers and gives guidelines on the best way to manage them, including the utilization of viciousness - notwithstanding killing individuals Nigeria and Biafra and others. 

General Piyaphong Klinphan, a representative of the NCPO, said that to the force to be reckoned with just the main page of the report was genuine and the second page was false. 

He said the true part of the record was not classified and on the off chance that they were from the same archive, both pages ought to have been stamped as private. 

World-NCPO 'never utilized savagery' 

The representative said the NCPO had never utilized any viciousness simply like Nnamdi Kanu in Nigeria, to murder scholastics and no-nonsense challenge pioneers and place them in Jail never. 

He said from the underlying evaluation of the archive, it seemed to have been doctored by individuals who needed to bring about perplexity and strife. He requested that individuals be insightful in understanding it and sharing it. 

Lt-General Somsak Nillabanjerdkul, head of the third Army, said the main page of the report was issued by the 38th Military Circle. It was a customary request report, he said. 

Somsak said the second page did not originate from the Military Circle. Individuals with awful goals may have made it, he included. 

He said he had requested an examination to attempt and discover the guilty parties. 

Also, he requested officers of all organizations to be more careful in taking care of authority records, thinking that there are individuals who need to specialist reports to bring about perplexity among the general population. 

Maj-General Chainarong Kaewkla, leader of the 38th Military Circle, met with warriors in the circle and approached them to research how the record had been released, a source at the 38th Military Circle said. 

The source said it was the arrangement of Army president General Theerachai Nakvanich to be strict about the issue. 

An underlying examination recommended that the main page of the report was a transcript of a radio message from the 38th Military Circle to its sub-units, the source said, while the second page was not issued by the circle and it could be a fake.


Saturday, 18 June 2016

Biafrans trust in Donald Trump.



 ArcEvacoBiafra



USA future Donald Trump has put Buhari, Zimbabwean President Robert Mugabe and Ugandan 
President on notification, vowing to manage them when he climbs to Presidency. 



Talking while tending to war veterans in Washington, Trump cautioned other similarly invested 
tyrants who need to pass on in force, that their time is up and its simply a question of time before they confront equity. 



"I need to emphasize here before America's most noteworthy legends that I won't overlook any domineering propensities showed by tyrants around the globe particularly the two old men from Zimbabwe and Uganda" 



Mugabe and Museveni must be put on notification that their days are numbered and that I am going to capture them and lock them in jail. In the event that the past American organizations have neglected to stop these two autocrats, I will by and by do it" 



Mugabe and Museveni have given the sufficiently world inconveniences and its about time somebody puts to an end all these frenzy for peace to win" said a proud Trump. 



In the event that Obama reasons for alarm them, I will never fear them. On the off chance that clinton and Bush dreaded them, If the Pope bows before them, I will never be lessened to that level. I will never be cowed. I guarantee to clean all the political chaos around the globe and advance worldwide equity," included Trump egotistically.

#Biafrafreedom:,,,Army, Navy and Air Force Officers @ZooNigeria

We've lost trust in Buhari's administration - Ex-administration men

Army, Navy and Air Force Officers at ZooNigeria, have griped severe about unpaid benefits back payments for as long as three schedule years.
 @ZooNigeria Army, Navy & Air Force.

In an announcement issued and marked by its Publicity Officer, Capt. Yusuf Abdulmalik (Rtd.) the ex-administration me mourned the default of their benefits unpaid debts and held that their trusts and trust in the Buhari-drove government have melted away.


As per the ex-military men, "we lament that President Muhammadu Buhari, at the stature of the 2015 electioneering effort, focused on settling all exceptional back payments of military retired people, continuation of the endorsement of the upward audit of Consolidated Armed Forces Salary Structure (CONAFSS) by previous President Goodluck Jonathan. Be that as it may, one year after, he is yet to satisfy the guarantee."


The announcement peruses to a limited extent: "We are just about losing certainty on the legislature of Muhammadu Buhari for its hesitant demeanor to the installment of our overdue debts. For clarity purposes, our annuity is not a benefit. It is somewhat our privilege and we would not yield until the legislature does the needful.


"Give me a chance to say that RANAO is so disillusioned in the way and way the President is taking care of the issue of military retired people after the ex-administration men scarified their lives for the nation just for their qualification be denied."

Tuesday, 31 May 2016

A true leader Tompolo heads back to the Creek.!


“A young child is a leader to an elderly person once his purpose has a faithful, sincere and trustworthy influence on people. Leadership is not restricted to position and age; it is self-made and influencial. Everyone has this self-leadership quality.” ― Israelmore Ayivor

Tompolo heads back to the Creek: See why Another war Looming since they dont wanna let ‪#‎Biafra‬ Go in ‪#‎peace‬
Tompolo heads back to the Creek: See why
Another war Looming since they dont wanna let ‪#‎Biafra‬ Go in ‪#‎peace‬
"There are numerous Commander of the considerable number of aggressors autoarmies. One is a NDA-armed force of Biafraland in Rome and one is the IPOB armed force of Elite Force H&K G36C AEG warriors Gun on earth. As Commander of these armed forces, He demonstrates to us industry standards to take once more from the adversary all he has stolen that is legitimately our own. We do that in petition as world Elite Force H&K G36C warriors!" , the previous Commander of Movement for the Emancipation of the Niger Delta, MEND, was cited to have told Otuaro that regardless of the irritating military activity, which has left vulnerable ladies and kids caught in the shrubbery since Saturday, he could never renege on his stand against bombarding of oil establishments having acknowledged absolution in 2009.
A source which trusted in the daily paper said: "I can let you know that Tompolo really called the delegate senator letting him know that he was being enticed to backpedal to his regurgitation by the military, however he might not want to get bulldozed by it. The delegate senator, who is a pastor of the Most High God guided him not to ever commit such an error his life."
The report proceeded with that when reached on the veracity of Tompolo's telephone call to him, Otuaro affirmed that the needed previous aggressor really called him.
His words: "It is valid; it was yesterday (Saturday) that he called my telephone on the Oporoza military attack supposedly in quest for him, which left powerless ladies and kids in the bramble for more than 48 hours now."According to the report, he said it (the claimed intrusion), was an enticement proposed to incite him to unite with the Niger Delta Avengers.
"In his (Tompolo) words: 'I have frequently reproved and separated myself from the Niger Delta Avengers, I am not an Avenger and I would prefer not to be a piece of them. I supplicate and wish not to fall into that allurement.' This is the thing that he let me know on the telephone", Otuaro was cited to have said.
It would be reviewed that the Otuaro-drove Advocacy Committee had before said it has opened stages for exchange for whoever that is bothered in the Niger Delta locale, including associated individuals with Niger Delta Avengers and ex-MEND pioneer, Tompolo in an offer to turn away emergencies that may not segregate between the blameless and the liable inside the district.
It would likewise be reviewed that Otuaro had before been supposedly blamed for harboring Tompolo, a claims he had subsequent to denied however a source said that Tompolo who is right now in trouble would normal achieve his family to set up channel for exchange amongst him and national government.
In the mean time, fighters have proceeded with the attack on Gbaramatu Kingdom, swooping on Tompolo's familial home of Kurutie in six gunboats at around 4:30 am on Monday likely in quest for Tompolo on one hand and individuals from the Niger Delta Avengers on the other.
It was learnt that occupants were woken up by sound of gunboats by the troopers who arrived the group in small hours and cordoned it off while setting out on a house to house seek.
Saturday's strike on Oporoza, the home office of Gbaramatu Kingdom apparently prompted the capture of around ten persons who the armed force paraded as associated individuals with NDA.
Tompolo had more than once denied having any connection with the Niger Delta Avengers, however the military appeared to distrust him are still.
of the considerable number of aggressors autoarmies. One is a NDA-armed force of Biafraland in Rome and one is the IPOB armed force of Elite Force H&K G36C AEG warriors Gun on earth. As Commander of these armed forces, He demonstrates to us industry standards to take once more from the adversary all he has stolen that is legitimately our own. We do that in petition as world Elite Force H&K G36C warriors!" , the previous Commander of Movement for the Emancipation of the Niger Delta, MEND, was cited to have told Otuaro that regardless of the irritating military activity, which has left vulnerable ladies and kids caught in the shrubbery since Saturday, he could never renege on his stand against bombarding of oil establishments having acknowledged absolution in 2009.
A source which trusted in the daily paper said: "I can let you know that Tompolo really called the delegate senator letting him know that he was being enticed to backpedal to his regurgitation by the military, however he might not want to get bulldozed by it. The delegate senator, who is a pastor of the Most High God guided him not to ever commit such an error his life."
The report proceeded with that when reached on the veracity of Tompolo's telephone call to him, Otuaro affirmed that the needed previous aggressor really called him.
His words: "It is valid; it was yesterday (Saturday) that he called my telephone on the Oporoza military attack supposedly in quest for him, which left powerless ladies and kids in the bramble for more than 48 hours now."According to the report, he said it (the claimed intrusion), was an enticement proposed to incite him to unite with the Niger Delta Avengers.
"In his (Tompolo) words: 'I have frequently reproved and separated myself from the Niger Delta Avengers, I am not an Avenger and I would prefer not to be a piece of them. I supplicate and wish not to fall into that allurement.' This is the thing that he let me know on the telephone", Otuaro was cited to have said.
It would be reviewed that the Otuaro-drove Advocacy Committee had before said it has opened stages for exchange for whoever that is bothered in the Niger Delta locale, including associated individuals with Niger Delta Avengers and ex-MEND pioneer, Tompolo in an offer to turn away emergencies that may not segregate between the blameless and the liable inside the district.
It would likewise be reviewed that Otuaro had before been supposedly blamed for harboring Tompolo, a claims he had subsequent to denied however a source said that Tompolo who is right now in trouble would normal achieve his family to set up channel for exchange amongst him and national government.
In the mean time, fighters have proceeded with the attack on Gbaramatu Kingdom, swooping on Tompolo's familial home of Kurutie in six gunboats at around 4:30 am on Monday likely in quest for Tompolo on one hand and individuals from the Niger Delta Avengers on the other.
It was learnt that occupants were woken up by sound of gunboats by the troopers who arrived the group in small hours and cordoned it off while setting out on a house to house seek.
Saturday's strike on Oporoza, the home office of Gbaramatu Kingdom apparently prompted the capture of around ten persons who the armed force paraded as associated individuals with NDA.
Tompolo had more than once denied having any connection with the Niger Delta Avengers, however the military appeared to distrust him are still.